ID# |
"Fake Cob type" |
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Comments |
#FC43601 |
Mexico, 3 reales, Carlos-Juana, "Early
Series" |
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Many have been seen lately different patina and shape
for the flan, even one gilt. 8.1 grams. |
#FC43602 |
Mexico, 4 reales, Carlos-Juana, "Late
Series," M to left, L to right (post-1554 type) |
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Note I actually sold a specimen of this
fake in 2005, and as recently as July, 2006, it was being offered by
Chinese seller cliff* on eBay . |
#FC53624 |
Mexico, 2 reales, Carlos-Juana, "Late
Series," M to left, G to left (post-1554 type) |
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Very common, hard to spot, many finishes different
weight but around 6.8 and 6.1 grams. |
#FC53625 |
Colombia, 2 Escudos - Mid-1600's.
possibly gold-plated in some cases |
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Another gold-cob fake that is turning
up a lot in South and Central American markets is this mid-1600s 2
escudos made out of base metal or silver |
#FC53626 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1630D |
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poor cast, commonly seen on eBay. |
#FC53627 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1635P |
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Note this is identical, except for the
date, to 1647/6P and 1657P #3 below, and this same planchet exists
with contrived full dates 1634, 1637, 1649, 1655, 1656, and 1667 |
#FC53628 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1647/6P |
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Note this is identical, except for the
date, to 1635P above and 1657P #3 below, and this same planchet
exists with contrived full dates 1634, 1637, 1649, 1655, 1656, and
1667 |
#FC53629 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1652/42P |
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(piece shown here was originally
offered from an eBay seller from Asia) Other sellers from other
parts of the World might be offering the same piece as well. |
#FC53630 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1653P #1 |
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(piece shown here was originally
offered from an eBay seller from Asia) Other sellers from other
parts of the World might be offering the same piece as well. |
#FC53631 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1653P #2 |
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(piece shown here was originally
offered from an eBay seller from Asia) Other sellers from other
parts of the World might be offering the same piece as well. |
#FC53632 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1657P #1 |
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(piece shown here was originally
offered from an eBay seller from Asia) Other sellers from other
parts of the World might be offering the same piece as well. |
#FC53633 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1657P #2 |
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(piece shown here was originally
offered from an eBay seller from Asia) Other sellers from other
parts of the World might be offering the same piece as well. |
#FC53634 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1657P #3 |
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Note this is identical, except for the
date, to 1635P and 1647/6P above, and this same planchet exists with
contrived full dates 1634, 1637, 1649, 1655, 1656, and 1667 |
#FC53635 |
Mexico, Royal 8 reales, 1646P |
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This one has been offered several times
by the same eBay seller, keywestdivers. it appears this
coin was cast from Lázaro's specimen. In any case, the usual
red flags are there (private auction, no returns), so no one should
be bidding on it anyway, but so far the bids are in the thousands of
dollars--well into the range in which someone must think it is
genuine. * |
#FC53636-A |
Mexico, 8 reales, Early-1600's |
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Another Mexican cob 8R fake, this one
actually fooled me till I saw it in person and noticed telltale tiny
balls on the surface, otherwise (and especially from just a photo)
it passes very easily for a nice "Rill Cove wreck" (ca. 1618)
specimen with the edges corroded away |
#FC53636-B |
Mexico City, Mexico, cob 8 reales,
Philip II, assayer F. |
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Another Mexican cob 8R fake.24.62
grams. This fake have been |
#FC53636 |
Mexico, 8 reales, oMF Phillip III |
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Another Mexican cob 8R fake. 24.8
grams. Metal is usually silver and the patina looks authentic. |
#FC53637 |
Mexico, 8 reales ROYAL, 1610F |
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Another
Mexican cob 8R fake. |
#FC53638 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1714J (Fleet) |
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Supposed to be from the 1715 Fleet
(corroded, underweight, etc.) but I have seen at least two identical
specimens |
#FC53638-AB |
Mexico, 8 reales
various "fleet" cast copies in lucite block. |
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Supposed to be some sort of promotional
done with a gift shop in South Florida, all the pieces here shown
are cast fakes. |
#FC53639-A |
Mexico, 8 reales,
framed fleet coin |
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4 reales, Philip V, assayer not visible, framed. The
other side pasted to its original certificate. With FAKE Cobb Coin
Co. certificate #154127. (auctioned by us back in 2012. (transaction
withdrawn/cancelled) Many fakes framed and glued casts still are
being offered on eBay, be very careful. |
#FC53639 |
Mexico, 8 reales, 1715J (Fleet) |
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Another one supposed to be from the
1715 Fleet, and seems to be a pretty good fake till you see its
litter-mates (and they always seem to be mounted...) As a
further note on this one, seller 2006edgec sold this coin as genuine
even though he had been told (and shown) that it was fake, so you
might want to avoid his offerings in the future. Other coins has
been offered as "Treasure coins" all fakes as well. |
#FC53639-A |
Mexico, 8 reales, (17)15J (Fleet) |
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Very sneaky cast, traces of lines on edge, 25.8 grams
paired even with genuine cert, we have seen it only once. |
#FC53640 |
Mexico, 8 reales, (1710-15) (Fleet) |
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The only way to tell is because we had
two coins alike in our hands. |
#FC53641 |
Mexico, 8 reales klippe, 1733MF |
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Note: this is a highly
counterfeited type, but this particular fake is cropping up a lot
these days and is identifiable by the four "plugged holes" in the
corners, which are rendered simply as flat spots in the casting.
Other type of 1733 fakes are also being offered on eBay
,(rectangular shape) |
#FC53642 |
Mexico, 8 reales klippe, 1734MF |
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Another klippe but this one dated 1734. |
#FC53642-A |
Mexico, 8 reales klippe, 1734MF |
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Another klippe but
good "fabric" with countermark and hole in different
places, fooled some auction houses, probably
seen
3-4 times. |
#FC53643-B |
Mexico, 4 escudos, 1711 Royal |
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There is also a proliferation of fake
Mexican gold cobs touted as being from the 1715 fleet, 5 grams. |
#FC53644 |
Mexico, 2 escudos, 1713 |
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There is also a proliferation of fake
Mexican gold cobs touted as being from the 1715 fleet. |
#FC53645 |
Mexico, 8 escudos, (1714-1715) |
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There is also a proliferation of fake
Mexican gold cobs touted as being from the 1715 fleet. 20
grams. |
#FC53645-B |
Mexico, 8 escudos,
1714J |
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There is also a proliferation of fake
Mexican gold cobs touted as being from the 1715 fleet. |
#FC53645-C |
Mexico, Gold Cob 1715 Fleet Set |
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reproduction made in 22k gold. |
#FC53646 |
Mexico, Gold Cob 1715 Fleet Set |
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There is also a proliferation of fake
Mexican gold cobs touted as being from the 1715 fleet. I have
seen them offered individually, but here are some group shots (an
8-4-2-1 denomination set) from seller hobie1965, who refused to
withdraw the sale even after being shown identical coins in other
auctions |
#FC53646-A |
Mexico, 8 escudos, oMF 1731 |
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An old well known fake. |
#FC53646-AB |
Mexico, 8 escudos, oMF 1731 |
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An old well known fake, 23,3 grams. |
#FC53646-B |
Mexico, 4 escudos, oMF 1731 |
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An old well known fake, 13,3 grams. |
#FC53646-C |
Mexico, 2 escudos, oMF 1731 |
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An old well known fake, 3,3 grams. |
#FC53647 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales Royal, 1707Y |
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Over the past several years I have seen
a particular brand of counterfeit coming out of Peru that is more
fanciful than deceitful, as the designs are not like the genuine
coins. This is a good example and following many more... |
#FC53648 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 2 reales, "Philip II,
1593" |
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#FC53649 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 1 real Royal, 1686VR |
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Also seen with the shape of a heart. |
#FC53650 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, Philip IV,
P-T |
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This cob and the following two, on the
other hand, are more dangerous (at least when buying from a photo)
because they are cast from genuine examples |
#FC53651 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 4 reales, Philip II,
P-B |
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#FC53652 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 1 real, Philip II, P-M |
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#FC53653 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1652E
transitional Type III |
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Some other Potosí fakes to watch for
are copies made from some pieces recovered from a wreck that sunk in
the 1650s. |
#FC53654 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1653E |
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Note: this particular piece comes
from a seller in China) |
#FC53655 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1653E #2 |
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Note: this one comes from eBay
seller "komakoma", whom many of my customers have asked me to watch,
yet this is the first specimen of his that I have actually examined
in person to be able to condemn it |
#FC53656 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1653E #3 |
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Note: this one is an "official
replica" made in Ecuador to commemorate the Capitana
salvage |
#FC53657 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1654E
"Capitana" |
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Apparently that was not the only
"casted" cob from the Capitana
salvage, there are a few more examples around, including
countermarked "L" pieces. |
#FC53658 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1651/2E
"Capitana" |
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#FC53659 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1655E |
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Note: another "komakoma" offering
that is likely to crop up again |
#FC53660 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales ROYAL, 1676E |
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Sold at least twice by eBay
seller "nammibob" despite notification. (Note we lack of scan for
the reverse) |
#FC53661 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1687 with
countermark from Guatemala. |
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very common
cast. |
#FC53662-B |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1688VR |
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very well done cast probably in many collections.
Weight is usually approx 26.55 grams |
#FC53662 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1692VR |
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very common cast. |
#FC53663 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1696VR |
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A classic! In addition, here is a fake
that should be recognizable as such by anyone but a neophyte, yet it
crops up as genuine on eBay all the time (most recently
[September, 2006] by seller "vintage_comics_and_collectibles" |
#FC53664 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1696VR |
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And a similar one, recently offered by
"paulelaine2524," who had some other fake cobs for sale as well and
refused to remove them. (Note: This seller now
goes by the name of "pgar299422" on eBay .) |
#FC53665 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales ROYAL, 1704Y |
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Very dangerous
fake using impact dies. At least 2 seen. |
#FC53666 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1730 |
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A very common cast fake that has been
around for decades and is now cropping up on eBay |
#FC53667 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales ROYAL, 1734E |
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Note that this appears to be cast from
a genuine coin that was offered on eBay in late 2005, but I
know that that coin was genuine because I examined it in person |
#FC53668 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales HEART, 1742C |
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Note that the too-neat style of this
coin typifies the fantasy pieces coming out of Peru in recent years |
#FC53669 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales, 1760q |
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A very common cast fake that has been
around for decades and is now cropping up on eBay |
#FC53670 |
Potosí, Bolivia, 2 reales HEART, 1786 |
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A very common cast fake that has been
around for decades and is now cropping up on eBay |
#FC53671 |
Santa Fe, Colombia, 8 Reales, 1652 |
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In 2005 the Perth Mint produced a 13
piece collection of replicas, including the coin illustrated here.
This is an "official" reproduction. The Perth Mint is wholly owned
by the government of Western Australia and is operated by Gold
Corporation which was created under an Act of Parliament |
#FC53672 |
Lima, Peru, 8 Reales, 1684 |
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You will find this coin everywhere,
even in some coin shows, being offered as a "fleet" cob. |
#FC53673 |
Lima, Peru, 8 reales, 1700H |
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Yet another Chinese fake, this one for
Lima! |
#FC53674-A |
Lima, Peru, 8 Reales assayer Rincon |
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This is fantasy very well done with the
right weight, bought at a market in Peru. |
#FC53674 |
Lima, Peru, 2 escudos 1705 |
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This is a replica plated, made back in
the late 70's, early 80's. (about half the real weight) |
#FC53675-A |
Lima, Peru, 4 escudos 1710 |
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We have seen this mounted, wellmade high karat gold
used. We have seen it 3-4 times. Always underweight. |
#FC53675 |
Lima, Peru, 8 escudos 1711 |
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This is a replica plated, made back in
the late 70's, early 80's. (about half the real weight) |
#FC53676 |
Lima, Peru, 8 escudos 1712 |
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This is a replica plated, made back in
the late 70's, early 80's. |
#FC53677 |
Lima, Peru, 8 escudos 1712 |
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This is a replica plated, made back in
the late 70's, early 80's. |
#FC53678 |
Lima, Peru, 8 escudos 1714 |
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This is a replica made in gold. |
#FC53679 |
Lima, Peru, 8 escudos, 1736N |
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This one was sold by seller
"estatedoctor" along with many other bad cobs ("private
auction"--usually a red flag!) even after I notified him that they
were fake. Note also that several cast fakes of this date are
known, including some copies marketed by Disney World at their
Pirates of the Caribbean gift shop |